by erkd1
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erkd1 (Erik’s Youtube channel)
Nov. 1 2007
Ron Paul asked if he was not running himself who he would identify the most with and vote for.
He calls Dennis Kucinich: “a good friend of mine”, “and he is a honest person”.
Setting aside our ideological differences, let’s hope for a 2008 election between Ron Paul and Dennis Kucinich. Two honorable and honest men who respect our Constitution.
Lets restore sanity to the White House.
Kucinich 2008, and best wishes to those of the GOP supporting Ron Paul.
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I am very chufffed to see a REAL disucsson going on somewhere. I really am.
To me, the fundamnetal problem in this campaign is the same one that is at the ROOT of America’s problems (it’s NOT the Fed and abolisihing it will not end the rich/poor divide amongs other things) bu the lack of communications to devise real answers with people getting involved helping implement them.
Tryly, reading this is veyr satisfying.
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Hi Chrissay, thanks for the link, I’ve posted it.
I too am waiting to hear an example of how Ron Paul ‘can weasel out of a question’; I also think nothing less than radical action is called for at this time.
Lo,
Here’s the video you mentioned:
(http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GB7lKOEasoA&rel=1&border=0)
Lo wrote:
“Detain This, I will NOT vote for Hillary. I will vote third party as I have done in the past. I don’t agree with voting for the lesser of two evils, evil is evil and I won’t vote for anyone pro-war.”
That was directed at your other guest. I know you lean Socialist, but I also recognize that you’re no pro-war statist shill like Hitlery.
Ron Paul — The Next POTUS? wrote:
“[Ron Paul] can weasel out of a question…”
Example?
“[Ron Paul] has his own ideals of what the Constitution stands for…”
Yep: the same ideals [sic] our Founding Fathers envisioned and put onto paper. It’s called “original intent” — the absolute antithesis to what all the other candidates (save, maybe, for Kucinich and Gravel) are espousing.
“I can think of some other presidential candidates (Joe Biden, Mike Huckabee, Al Gore, Stephen Colbert, Dennis Kucinich…) that would do an even better job of being president without being totally radical and without all of the party-type behavior that Ron Paul occasionally displays.”
Ooh. He’s “radical”! Decades-long military occupations, open borders, and disarming of lawful gun owners is radical. US membership in NAFTA, CAFTA, the WTO, and possibly a NAU, are radical. And so on, and so forth. The word “radical” is appropriate, given that it means the opposite of “status quo.”
I certainly agree with Kucinich as an alternative to Paul, but as far as the others you mentioned… try again.
And not wanting to legislate morality is party-type behavior? Wanting to stay out of our bedrooms, our schools, our churches, and even abortion clinics, is party-type behavior? I could go on and on, but for your sake, I’ll end it there. Now, it’s your turn to provide examples of his offensive and not-worthy-to-lead behavior, if you can conjure up any which will stick.
“Get what I mean, then?”
No. I don’t. (That is, unless you mean you’ll say anything so that the most ethical and consistently principled statesman falls from grace and ultimately fails in his presidential bid. In which case, you’ll need to do a lot better than your current smear.)
Hi Bon, I did post the interview with Ron Paul on Jay Leno (video). Missed the part with the Sex Pistols, though. I may have to look for that.
thanks for the positive post, Lo.
we need to get kucinich and paul at the front of their parties.
we are working together in this, taking back our country.
please post ron paul on the jay leno show with the sex pistols. johnny rotten gave paul a shout-out; it was a historic moment in libertarianism (rotten is also a libertarian, from what i’ve heard).
by the way, most libertarians i know want to get rid of corporate subsidies, no-bid contracts *and* corporate personhood, which would go a long way toward eliminating corporatism altogether.
-b-
Ouch! He mentioned Chuck.
Detain This, I will NOT vote for Hillary. I will vote third party as I have done in the past. I don’t agree with voting for the lesser of two evils, evil is evil and I won’t vote for anyone pro-war.
We’ll see how much support Paul really has when the primaries start.
“It would actually minimize corporatism.”
I want zero corporatism not a smaller amount of it.
I want Corporate power destroyed. Libertarians and other right wingers support Corporations so they cannot claim to be against corporatism.
Is Ron Paul really presidential material? Yeah, he’s improving at it, and yes, he can weasel out of a question, and yes, he is multi-faceted, and has his own ideals of what the Constitution stands for, but I can think of some other presidential candidates (Joe Biden, Mike Huckabee, Al Gore, Stephen Colbert, Dennis Kucinich…) that would do an even better job of being president without being totally radical and without all of the party-type behavior that Ron Paul occasionally displays. Get what I mean, then?
Hey, Lo.
Isn’t it odd — how this post was originally in the spirit of what unites Kucinich and Paul; yet somehow, it turned into a device for dividing them? Unreal! Oh well. Anyway…
NH wrote:
“Um I don’t think he meant he would vote for him. Dennis is a communist.”
Being for certain gun-control measures and certain federal social programs doesn’t make one a communist. Of all Dems running, nobody adheres more strictly to the Constitution than Kucinich. Real Communists would just as soon burn it and have away with taxation-with-representation and individual liberties.
Cody wrote:
“Dennis is a communist? LOL”
Hear hear.
“For the record, Ron Paul wants to eliminate government and let corporations run our country. DOESN’T THAT SOUND LIKE FUN? It’s pretty close to how it is now– it just isn’t official. Under Ron Paul it would be.”
For the record? What — the revisionists’ record?
Ron Paul wants to scale-back the government to proper, constitutional levels, which would actually be a good thing. It would actually minimize corporatism.
Have you ever read his speeches and essays on federal-corporate corruption? Did you watch Paul on The Daily Show, for example? An excerpt:
Jon Stewart: Right. But doesn’t that in some respects trust corporations over… because there’s always been regulation, or you would get rid of regulation for that as well?
Ron Paul: Yeah, and there’s a big difference between corporations who benefit from government largesse — that’s corporatism and that’s evil; you know, the Halliburton stuff —
Stewart: No, I’m familiar with that.
Paul: The Military-Industrial Complex.
“I’m voting Kucinich. I’m tired of people thinking Ron Paul is the best candidate just because he’s against the war.”
If that was the case, then why do you feel so many Indies and Dems are registering as Reps and donating to his campaign at an unprecedented pace?
There is much more to his campaign than just the war. If that was the case, there would be more than one Republican opposing the war, military bases, and occupation in Iraq — don’t you think? Why do you suppose Chuck Hagel ultimately decided not to run? He might have been successful if your theory was solid. You underestimate the people and the power of individual liberty and the Constitution.
“Please, for the sake of our country, look at ALL the issues and realize that just because we get out of Iraq doesn’t mean our country will be headed in a good direction. I’m all for getting out of Iraq, but we can’t let things fall to pieces domestically, either.”
Exactly. Which is why Ron Paul IS worth our time and consideration. Paul’s economic prowess is unmatched and fiscally sound. His stance on Social Security is attractive to a broader portion of the people (stop taxing SS benefits; stop stealing from the SS fund to fund wars and corporate entitlements; let the young people opt out and save their money; give the elderly what they’ve been promised; etc.). And contrary to popular myth, he’s not pushing to eliminate SS. He’s not pushing to put people out on the streets by eliminating Medicare and so forth either.
Don’t get me wrong. I am supporting Kucinich via campaign donations because I can’t fathom the thought of Hitleryism taking over. But there must be reasons why Kucinich’s campaign doesn’t get anywhere near the unprecedented support Paul’s campaign is getting. The reason, IMO, is that Ron Paul’s message and voting record are all about restoring the principles of small government, individual liberty, and many other constitutional values neglected over the decades. His message, mirrored by his voting record, draw a broader swath of Indies, Reps and Dems than do the platforms of any of the other candidates.
Bonus gem: His stance on federalism goes a long way toward attracting people on both sides of abortion, gun rights, and Church-State issues.
I could go on and on, but I’d rather you and others find out for yourselves.
If it comes down to Hitlery v. Paul — and you vote for Hitlery — well, oops! At least you were forewarned.
Dennis is a communist? LOL
For the record, Ron Paul wants to eliminate government and let corporations run our country. DOESN’T THAT SOUND LIKE FUN? It’s pretty close to how it is now– it just isn’t official. Under Ron Paul it would be.
I’m voting Kucinich. I’m tired of people thinking Ron Paul is the best candidate just because he’s against the war. Please, for the sake of our country, look at ALL the issues and realize that just because we get out of Iraq doesn’t mean our country will be headed in a good direction. I’m all for getting out of Iraq, but we can’t let things fall to pieces domestically, either.
NH, Kucinich is NOT a communist, give me a break. Leave the name calling out and write your comments about the post or Paul on the issues, please.
Um I don’t think he meant he would vote for him. Dennis is a communist. Ron is not. Sorry.
This is proof to me, not that I need it, that Ron Paul is the most honest (and only) republican running for pres. With his top tier status now, and his need for dyed in the wool republican support in the upcoming primaries, he does not pander to anyone! That statement about Kucinich would actually cause him to lose a lot of the repub base (sheep) who do not know him! What a guy!
Hear hear!