Waterboarding is Torture… Period + US accused of torture by Ian Munro

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Oct. 29, 2007

I’d like to digress from my usual analysis of insurgent strategy and tactics to speak out on an issue of grave importance to Small Wars Journal readers. We, as a nation, are having a crisis of honor.

Last week the Attorney General nominee Judge Michael Mukasey refused to define waterboarding terror suspects as torture. On the same day MSNBC television pundit and former Republican Congressman Joe Scarborough quickly spoke out in its favor. On his morning television broadcast, he asserted, without any basis in fact, that the efficacy of the waterboard a viable tool to be used on Al Qaeda suspects.

Scarborough said, “For those who don’t know, waterboarding is what we did to Khalid Sheikh Mohammed, who is the Al Qaeda number two guy that planned 9/11. And he talked …” He then speculated that “If you ask Americans whether they think it’s okay for us to waterboard in a controlled environment … 90% of Americans will say ‘yes.’” Sensing that what he was saying sounded extreme, he then claimed he did not support torture but that waterboarding was debatable as a technique: “You know, that’s the debate. Is waterboarding torture? … I don’t want the United States to engage in the type of torture that [Senator] John McCain had to endure.”

In fact, waterboarding is just the type of torture then Lt. Commander John McCain had to endure at the hands of the North Vietnamese. As a former Master Instructor and Chief of Training at the US Navy Survival, Evasion, Resistance and Escape School (SERE) in San Diego, California I know the waterboard personally and intimately. SERE staff were required undergo the waterboard at its fullest. I was no exception. I have personally led, witnessed and supervised waterboarding of hundreds of people. It has been reported that both the Army and Navy SERE school’s interrogation manuals were used to form the interrogation techniques used by the US army and the CIA for its terror suspects. What was not mentioned in most articles was that SERE was designed to show how an evil totalitarian, enemy would use torture at the slightest whim. If this is the case, then waterboarding is unquestionably being used as torture technique.


US accused of torture

Ian Munro
Herald Correspondent in New York
October 31, 2007

THE United States’s willingness to resort to harsh interrogation techniques in its so-called war on terror undermined human rights and the international ban on torture, a United Nations spokesman says.

Manfred Nowak, UN Special Rapporteur on torture, said the US’s standing and importance meant it was a model to other countries which queried why they were subject to scrutiny when the US resorted to measures witnessed at Guantanamo Bay and Abu Ghraib prison.

Mr Nowak was speaking after releasing his finding that the use of torture was routine and widespread in Sri Lanka, despite laws against it.

“I am very concerned about the undermining of the absolute prohibition of torture by interrogation methods themselves in Abu Grahib, in Guantanamo Bay and others, but also by rendition and the whole CIA secret places of detention. All that is really undermining the international rule of law in general and human rights but also the prohibition of torture,” said Mr Nowak.


5 thoughts on “Waterboarding is Torture… Period + US accused of torture by Ian Munro

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  2. If torture like waterboarding is not really torture, or cruel and unusual punishment we can be expecting this on a local level soon. Think about it, the mockery of representation that we have from both parties support Mukasey. Republicans especially, and Democrats who elected these jokers must stop their madness. The problem is that they are too busy watching 24 on DVD to have a soul. I know if either of my Senators supported an AG who was cool with waterboarding I would be irate, disgusted and in contact with their office. I hope that the majority of the rest of my country agrees with me that waterboarding is torture and it is not even close. I see all these people with those WWJD bracelets on, so I guess Bush has asked himself Who Would Jesus Torture? Or maybe Bush is not that religious after all.

    I hope following posters will discuss whether or not it is OK for local Police Departments to start waterboarding if it is indeed legal. And the natural follow up to that is when do you expect it to start in your city once Mukasey is giving Bush cover to do whatever he wants?

  3. The implementation of torture is for cowards and bullies. For those who are too cowardly to fight someone face to face and hand to hand. Wussies!!! The people who participate in it are probably the idiots that got their heads flushed in the toilets of the boys’ bathrooms in high school by the other boys. You know the ones I am talking about….

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