by Frank Rich
May 4, 2008
BORED by those endless replays of the Rev. Jeremiah Wright? If so, go directly to YouTube, search for “John Hagee Roman Church Hitler,” and be recharged by a fresh jolt of clerical jive. [DS: see video below.]
What you’ll find is a white televangelist, the Rev. John Hagee, lecturing in front of an enormous diorama. Wielding a pointer, he pokes at the image of a woman with Pamela Anderson-sized breasts, her hand raising a golden chalice. The woman is “the Great Whore,” Mr. Hagee explains, and she is drinking “the blood of the Jewish people.” That’s because the Great Whore represents “the Roman Church,” which, in his view, has thirsted for Jewish blood throughout history, from the Crusades to the Holocaust.
Mr. Hagee is not a fringe kook but the pastor of a Texas megachurch. On Feb. 27, he stood with John McCain and endorsed him over the religious conservatives’ favorite, Mike Huckabee, who was then still in the race.
Are we really to believe that neither Mr. McCain nor his camp knew anything then about Mr. Hagee’s views? This particular YouTube video — far from the only one — was posted on Jan. 1, nearly two months before the Hagee-McCain press conference. Mr. Hagee appears on multiple religious networks, including twice daily on the largest, Trinity Broadcasting, which reaches 75 million homes. Any 12-year-old with a laptop could have vetted this preacher in 30 seconds, tops.
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John Hagee compares † Roman Church † to Hitler
Added: January 01, 2008
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She was the “Great Whore of Babylon”, and despite her ample bosom, she wasn’t related to Pamela Anderson. Although the once great city of Babylon existed around fifty miles south of where Baghdad now stands, most bible scholars seem to agree that “The Great Whore” was supposed to refer to pagan Rome. The ‘beast’ wasn’t a big cat like one Hagee was pointing at, it was supposed to be a beast with seven heads and ten horns no less!
The “Apocalypyse of the Theologian” aka “The Book of Revelations”, was supposed to have been written by a chap called John of Patmos, and originally wasn’t a part of the New Testament canon. It’s belated inclusion remains somewhat strange and questionable.
Ah, but whaqt you forget is that John McCain did not sit in this man’s pews week after week. McCain did not claim to be a member of this man’s church. And just like, Obama said about Ayers, “I have no control over who gives my campaign monies”, neither does John McCain.
Well, I don’t remember who Pamela Anderson is, but the woman on the beast looked to be fairly normally proportioned to me. The woman does represent the apostate church. There was certainly a time in history when I would have to agree that the Roman Catholic church was apostate. They didn’t only kill Jews, though. They killed a huge number of Christians as well. The Anabaptists are a case in point, but there were plenty of others.
As for the RCC as it is today? Certainly some factions within it will become part of the end-time apostate church. Also, most likely, many factions of other denominations, both high and low will become a part of the “great whore”. I know there are people through the years who have interpreted the “great whore” as being the RCC, but I don’t think this is an entirely accurate interpretation. No doubt it’s based on the RCC’s unsavory past, but I believe the church has changed, and for the better.
Many RC’s are devout, sincere, and commited Christians–true followers of Jesus, washed in the blood, walking the walk. And, as in all churches, there are people with whom a true follower of Christ shouldn’t fellowship. There are even those who continue to persecute other Christians, such as in Mexico and South America. This does not make the RCC as a whole the “great whore”.
There are other reasons for pointing to the RCC for this dubious distinction, but they all flow from the past actions (long past) of the RCC. The big one is the church’s headquarters in Rome. I won’t go into that, but sufice it to say that I don’t think this definitively dooms the RCC to playing this part in prophecy all by herself.
If it makes you feel any better, most people who adhere to this view of prophecy have no hatred toward individual RCs or even toward the RC leadership. It is the institution itself that receives their ire.
And yes, I realize that I have completely missed your point, so here’s the comment on your accusation. No, this is not the same as Jeremiah Wright thinking that all white people (and any other race besides black) are evil and deserving of eternal damnation (and the sooner the better).
Mind, I’m not taking this from any Wright speach or sermon, but from the leaders and teachers of the Black Liberation Theology movement. Black Liberation Theology is not Christianity as the bible defines Christianity . . .
Colossians 3:11 (New International Version)
11Here there is no Greek or Jew, circumcised or uncircumcised, barbarian, Scythian, slave or free, but Christ is all, and is in all.
Paul doesn’t mention black or white. I assume that’s because most of the people around him (and most likely he himself) were at least dark-skinned enough to pass for African American in the USA.
Barack Obama undoubtedly doesn’t believe all the hatred spewed out by Wright. I think he just went to that church as a matter of political expedience. Which to me, is almost worse.