My Meeting with Dr. David Ray Griffin by Jennifer

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by Jennifer
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June 30, 2008

Conspiracy ~ A Planning and acting together secretly, esp. for an unlawful or harmful purpose.

If A = B,

And B = C,

Then A must = C.


Not always.

On the evening of June 27, 2008, I attended an event with Dr. David Ray Griffin. Yes everyone, David Ray Griffin the worlds leading critic of the United States government’s story behind the events of September 11, 2001.

Admittedly, I found myself in a most unexpected situation. When I approached the building where he was to speak, I was certain I would be surrounded by the stereotypical 9/11 ‘truther’ portrayed in the media. In other words, I would find myself in the midst of a large group of fanatical nuts and off in the corner of the building I would see one well dressed FBI agent attempting not to laugh at the antics he was witnessing.

This was not my experience. After a short conversation with Mr. Griffin who teased me a bit about my name, (he asked if anyone had ever called me Jeffiner instead of Jennifer, because that is what he called his daughter after friends at school could not pronounce her name) I found myself amongst a group of educated, articulate adults.

When the event began, Mr. Griffin started by saying that perhaps the most important political question of our time was, ‘Did Muslim Extremists attack the United States on September 11, 2001?’

I can’t disagree. Since the events of September the 11th, the United States has launched two pre-emptive wars (one in Afghanistan and one in Iraq), is preparing to launch another pre-emptive war (Iran), abolished Habeas Corpus, practices torture and Extraordinary Rendition, encroaches on our Civil Liberties, and reversed the 200-year old tradition of ‘innocent until proven guilty’. This has been the United States stance in a supposed effort to protect us from another catastrophic event.

Unfortunately, what has been lost in this discussion is a slow, objective, thoughtful look at that day in American history. Both sides, those that accept the governments accounting as absolutes and those who are determined to prove that the Unites States was behind the event have reached definitive conclusions. I would offer that the actual truth lies somewhere in between.

In Griffin’s discussion and his recent book 9/11 Contradictions An Open Letter to Congress and the Press, Griffin asks us to engage in this thoughtful discussion. I have to admit, I myself, have many questions about that day that have still gone unanswered and the Bush Administration’s reluctance to engage in an open dialog about the issue as well as the manipulation of evidence leading up to the Iraq Occupation does make me suspicious. This, I suppose, is why I attended the event. My personal questions along with the discussion between the makers of Loose Change and the authors of the Popular Mechanics article on Democracy Now! is perhaps the most time I have actually spent on the issue. However, the most profound experience for me, was recently sitting in bed with my husband while he was surfing the internet and I was reading a book.

“Hmmm, that is kinda weird.” he says more to himself than me.


“Look at this,” as he shows me a photo picturing a large steel beam that has apparently been cut in a perfect diagonal line, “it is what a steel beam looks like after a controlled demolition.”

Now I am annoyed, my husband who has done construction for over 20 years thinks I am interested in this topic loves to explain all sorts of engineering and architectural things that I really find boring.


“This is the World Trade Center.”

Now he has my attention. “Are you sure?”

When I left the event, I donated ten dollars to a group in New York City that is asking for a re-opening of the 9/11 investigation. I have concluded, which is really no conclusion at all, that the 9/11 Commission Report and the Bush Administration have offered too many contradictions and have left too many questions unanswered. In light of the blood that has been shed, the treasury lost, and the diversion from the values we hold dear, don’t we, doesn’t the world deserve to have the questions raised by Mr. Griffin answered?

I think we do. I would encourage you to consider the possibility, even the plausibility that at the very least, Griffin points out contradictions that have seen no resolution, not from our government or our press.


Tim Russert, Dick Cheney, and 9/11 by Prof. David Ray Griffin

INN WORLD REPORT: David Ray Griffin

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6 thoughts on “My Meeting with Dr. David Ray Griffin by Jennifer

  1. planes didn’t hit buildings 3,4,5,and 6 either but they too were flattened. the debris field of 1 and 2 was over 16 acres, and the famous video of 7 falling was shot from the north side. the south side – next to building 1 – was heavily damaged. 16 stories had been knocked out of the SW corner. do some “research” beyond the truther echo chamber and you’ll learn how 7 fell.

    call for serious investigations about the lies of the run up to iraq, cheney’s “energy task force” rove’s politicizing the department of justice – REAL ISSUES. the 9/11 truth movement has been a tragic distraction, discrediting the left in the name of selling sensationalist books, and videos. it’s easy to feel useful by complaining about a faceless, unprovable, faux issues. organizing for real change based on real issues is more difficult – but much more important.

  2. here’s another link people should check out;

    Click to access Article-WTC%20STUDY%208-06%20w%20clarif%20as%20of%209-8-06%20.pdf

    it’s a pdf of the article “A CRITICAL ANALYSIS OF THE COLLAPSE OF WTC TOWERS 1, 2 & 7 FROM AN EXPLOSIVES AND CONVENTIONAL DEMOLITION INDUSTRY VIEWPOINT” and it comes from the website of implosion world – a publication by PROTEC a leading authority on demolitions.

    “For over 30 years, Protec personnel have studied the effects of vibrations on structures as related to construction, demolition and blasting operations. From the world’s largest building implosions to the smallest road-reconstruction jobs,

    Protec has performed critical documentation and vibration monitoring services on thousands of domestic and international projects. Beyond addressing potential damage claims, each program is specifically designed to maximize project efficiency and document regulatory compliance, thereby strenghthening the client’s reputation and mitigating insurance costs. ”

    another great PDF is the NATIONAL INSTITUTE OF STANDARDS AND TECHNOLOGY’ regarding WTC building 7.

    Dr. Griffin is a charming fellow, but he’s a theologian – not an engineer. i recommend visiting to learn more about logical fallacies – Griffin is a master at using them to his advantage. There are clearly cover-ups and lies regarding the incompetence of the bush administration – but Griffins assertions about a missile striking the pentagon, and controlled demolitions HAVE NO EMPIRICAL EVIDENCE to back them up, and there is AMPLE EVIDENCE that the impacts of the planes and the collapses that ensued caused ALL of the damage on 9/11. And regarding the cut beam photo you reference – there are many such pics online – and ALL of them were taken during the clean up process when (surprise) of course beams were getting cut. people who check out “9/11 truth” sites -should weigh claims by also visiting non-9/11 truth sites. is one of the best. THANKS

  3. The article about Dick Cheney’s interview with Tim Russert is interesting. I’m familiar with the interview and its eye-opening to see all of the inconsistencies in his account then and the account given to the 9/11 Commission.

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