Obama, McCain Rebuff Protesters, Veterans Arrested During McCain’s ‘Last Chance’

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Oct 16, 2008

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Obama, McCain Rebuff Protesters, Veterans Arrested During McCain’s ‘Last Chance’

by Stephen Dohnberg

DigitalJournal.com: The Power of Citizen Journalism

Obama, McCain, and CBS rebuffed veterans and active duty service-people who sought to ask a question in the final debate. Amid arrests outside of debate grounds, the pundits’ early verdicts are not a good for McCain, as Obama held strong defense.

Hempstead, NY – Tonight at approximately 7:05 the Iraq Vets Against the War (IVAW), a coalition of veterans and active duty American service people, were stopped by police approximately one block from the gate entrance to the Hofstra University debate grounds.

The group committed an act of non violent civil disobedience and attempted to cross the lines, After a short standoff with local police on horseback and supported by police in light riot gear, 15 individuals were arrested.

A total of 15, including 5 protesters were detained and arrested after attempting to enter at the north Hofstra gate. Spokesman for Nassau Police,Dept. Lt. Kevin Smith informed Newsday, “When they insisted on coming through they were placed under arrest

… there might have been one injury. I don’t believe that it was serious and he was taken to an area hospital.”

The arrested IVAW members and protesters were held for approximately 5 hours, and the hospitalized member, Nick Morgan, an honourably discharged veteran diagnosed with PTSD, was badly injured by one of the police horses. The IVAW reports that the police initially refused Morgan treatment. Nassau County police offered no comment at this time.

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Veterans Protest, Arrested, Outside Hofstra Debate

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10 thoughts on “Obama, McCain Rebuff Protesters, Veterans Arrested During McCain’s ‘Last Chance’

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  4. I am all over this. This utmost profanity, this sheer defecation on the Constitution – an American veteran’s blood shed on American soil by the agents of a twisted fascist police state happened in MY COUNTY and if it ever happens again there’s a good chance my blood will be joining his on the sidewalk. I am absolutely infuriated. I have not lost my temper like this in years. The red haze, the tunnel vision… it is so not a good idea to be around me right now if you are a clue-challenged Republican’t.

    I’ve been posting photos, videos, making sure my community stays informed. Via some serendipty from that have managed to arrange an interview between Patrick Whittle of Newsday (who wrote their coverage of the action) and Nick Morgan.

    Their day in court is November 10th: Here follows something that came across the Vets for Peace LI list.

    Here is an update on the Hempstead 15 from Kris Goldsmith of IVAW, one of the veterans arrested at Hofstra.

    On Wednesday, October 15th 2008, a peaceful protest outside the third Presidential Debate at Hofstra University on Long Island was met with violence and misconduct by police.Iraq Veterans Against the War had a clear mission that night: to ensure that the issues most important to Veterans would be at the forefront of the debate. With over 4,183 service members having been killed in Iraq (at the time of the protest), it’s unforgivable that the candidates have been allowing the Occupation of Iraq and it’s casualties to fall into avoidable talking points instead of focused attention.At 7:00pm the night of the debate, IVAW members led a contingent of a few hundred peaceful protesters to the main gate of Hofstra University. As per our letter to Moderator Bob Scheiffer, because we hadn’t received notice that two of our Veterans would be allowed to enter the debate to address the candidates, a small, uniformed contingent of Veterans physically attempted entry.Immediately police began arresting those who “crossed the line”. They then began using horses to physically knock protesters back away from the Hofstra gates.As the order to get back on the sidewalk was being complied to at least one officer charged his horse up the curb, and onto the sidewalk- directly resulting in at least three injuries- including two Iraq Veterans.Nick Morgan, a former Army Sergeant was trampled, knocked out, and had his face crushed by the hoof of a horse.Witnesses say that police left him unconscious on the sidewalk for up to ten minutes before arresting him. Nick, disoriented and obviously suffering a concussion, was initially refused medical treatment beyond a simple piece of gauze taped to his face.When Morgan was escorted onto the bus in handcuffs, he didn’t know where he was, or why he was arrested. Police initially refused to bring him to the hospital irregardless of his potentially life threatening condition. It wasn’t until other members of IVAW demanded he be allowed to see a doctor, that the police hesitantly put Nick into an ambulance.At the hospital Morgan received stitches, and it was discovered after an x-ray that his right cheek bone was clearly displaced and pushed back into his skull.After treatment, the semi-conscious Veteran was brought to Nassau County’s Headquarters Jail and shackled to a bench with the rest of us. With fifteen in total sitting in the jail, the officers and detectives began taunting and harassing Nick, with all of us witnessing this misconduct by police.We, the “Hempstead 15” were issued the same summons and case number for “disorderly conduct” and “failure to obey a lawful order”.On November 10th 2008, the Marine Corps Birthday, and one day before Veterans Day, we will be heard in court. We would like to invite you to come out in support of the very Freedoms granted by the United States Constitution that we swore to uphold and defend when joining the military.First District Court, County of Nassau, Arraignment Part, 99 Main Street, Hempstead New York 11550 (Room 268)I hope to see you all there, for a Peaceful action.

    -Sergeant Kristofer Goldsmith
    Iraq Veterans Against the War
    “1 of the Hempstead 15”

    For those who would like to support the Hempstead 15, here are some suggestions from IVAW

    So what can YOU do about it? My fellow veteran brothers need you. We need to call the Nassau police department and ask them why they would trample IRAQ WAR VETERANS exercising their FREEDOM SPEECH in a peaceful manner. Is this the way members of the military who don the uniform and make an oath to defend the constitution, America, and it’s people are treated? We MUST NOT ONLY hold the Police Department accountable but the Presidential Candidates as well for allowing this to happen. THIS IS NOT DEMOCRACY, THIS IS A POLICE STATE.

    Below are the numbers. Call now and anytime until November 10th when the court date is set for the detained veterans. Stay posted for a possible action then.

    LAWRENCE MULVEY
    COMMISSIONER OF POLICE

    Public Information Office
    516-573-7135
    516-573-7138 (24 hour)
    516-573-7118 FAX

    And the complaint line

    Call 516-573-7000 and ask to be connected to the Desk Officer where the incident occurred (Hofstra University).

    Nassau County Police Internal Affairs Unit: 516-573-7120
    Nassau County District Attorney’s Office, Special Investigations : 516-571-2100
    NYS Attorney General, Civil Rights Division: 1-800-771-7755

    Thank you for your continued support,
    Wendy Barranco
    President
    IVAW – Los Angeles
    Combat Medic
    SPC, USA
    OIF 05-07
    Tikrit, Iraq

    Here are the names of those veterans arrested at Hofstra.

    A total of ten veterans were arrested during the action, including Matthis Chiroux (Army Sergeant), Kristofer Goldsmith (Army Sergeant), Adam Kokesh (Marine Sergeant), Mike Spinato, Geoff Millard (Army Sergeant), Marlisa Grogan (Marine Captain), Nathan Peld (Navy, 1998-2004), Nick Morgan (Army Sergeant), James Gilligan (Marine Corps, 6 years) and Jose Vasquez (Army & Army Reserves, 1992-2007).

    In solidarity,

    Mac Bica
    Coordinator, VFPLI

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  7. Thanks, Mareen for reposting.

    Hi Sigrid, there’s not too much difference betw Obama and McCain on many issues. Change will not be coming to Amerika.

    The “debates” were a total farce. Only the 2 “major” parties were allowed in. You call that a democracy? For that reason alone, I cannot support the Democratic Party. Questions by any citizens let alone veterans were either not allowed or were screened ahead of time. It’s a farce.

  8. i’m dumbfounded. and a little more than speechless. i should clarify… i’m not a bit surprised by mccain… but obama??

  9. What is our country coming to if our candidates won’t even take questions from our service people? The very people who are or have risking their own lives for us.

    Thanks, reposted.

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