Official: UN May Prosecute Bush Administration, Regardless Of US action + Michael Ratner: Prosecute Bush & Cheney

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By David Edwards
January 23, 2009 “Rawstory” Jan 22, 2009

The UN’s special torture rapporteur called on the US Tuesday to pursue former president George W. Bush and defence secretary Donald Rumsfeld for torture and bad treatment of Guantanamo prisoners.

“Judicially speaking, the United States has a clear obligation” to bring proceedings against Bush and Rumsfeld, the United Nations Special Rapporteur on Torture Manfred Nowak said, in remarks to be broadcast on Germany’s ZDF television Tuesday evening.

He noted Washington had ratified the UN convention on torture which required “all means, particularly penal law” to be used to bring proceedings against those violating it.


via Official: UN May Prosecute Bush Administration, Regardless Of US action- ICH


Obama orders on Guantanamo and torture


Michael Ratner of the Center for Constitutional Rights comments on Obama’s executive orders and says he must still take up the prosecution of Bush/Cheney


Obama’s orders leave torture, indefinite detention intact

by Tom Eley
Global Research, January 23, 2009

On Thursday, President Barack Obama issued executive orders mandating the closure of the Guantánamo Bay prison camp in a year’s time, requiring that Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) and military personnel follow the Army Field Manual’s prohibitions on torture, and closing secret CIA prisons overseas.

While the media is portraying these orders as a repudiation of the detention and interrogation policies of the Bush administration, they actually change little. They essentially represent a public relations effort to refurbish the image of the United States abroad after years of torture and extralegal detentions and shield high-ranking American officials from potential criminal prosecution.


via Obama’s orders leave torture, indefinite detention intact.


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8 thoughts on “Official: UN May Prosecute Bush Administration, Regardless Of US action + Michael Ratner: Prosecute Bush & Cheney

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  4. Yes, Prosecute ALL.

    In accordance with international law to which the USA is signatory, the refusal to commit Warcrimes flows to each individual official, as well as to each individual combatant, from the President on down to the grunt:

    The Nuremberg Principles, established at the Nazi trials after World War II, declare that it is the right and responsibility of individual soldiers to refuse to follow illegal orders or to participate in war crimes.

    The Geneva Conventions of War define a legal war as one that is undertaken as a last resort in the legitimate self-defense of a nation, and has the support of the international community of nations. It also defines what kind of weapons may be legitimately employed in war, and how civilian populations and captured soldiers should be treated during wartime.

    The U.N. Handbook on Refugees calls on countries to provide refuge to soldiers “who refuse to participate in wars widely condemned by the international community as contrary to accepted standards of human behavior.”

    This and other information for service personnel available at: “Soldiers Say No!”

    Further useful information for enlistees including GI Rights and Resistance can be found at the

    It would appear in light of the above that any service personnel who participated in the invasion and occupation of Iraq after it was shown conclusively that Iraq did not pose a threat to the USA, or who ordered or participated in any torture of any political prisoners, etc. is indeed implicated and personally responsible for participating in War Crimes.

    Upon the revelation that there were no WMD aimed at the USA in Iraq, each and every service-person should have abandoned the battlefield at once and refused to carry out “illegal orders”. Upon Cheney’s admission that he approved the order to torture, he should have been summarily impeached and prosecuted.

    If in the aftermath of Vietnam, in which clear war-crimes of a vast scale were committed, any who would willfully enlist and ‘follow orders’ to again invade a sovereign nation of no threat to the USA, is as Einstein would put it, “not worth their spinal marrow”.

    It is long-since time that any and all employees of the US government, including the Federal Officials who represent the people on down to thos soldiers who would be deployed in this endless series of criminal militaristic escapades by the USA since WW2 and the Geneva Conventions, uphold the rule of law, as well as their moral obligations to refuse to become order-following robo-cops on behalf of some dubious ‘national interest’ of the US government.

    The body has a head, and even if grunts have their minds removed during basic training and replaced with some computer-program that makes them kill on command, the law is the law. Break the law, you go to jail. Period.

    That should be plain enough for Chainey & Rummy, and it should be plain enough for Rambo and his ilk as well.

    If you Fail to prosecute those who abuse their ‘license to kill’, then you’re setting yet another macabre amerigoon precedent, whereby mass-murder and torture is somehow honorable and patriotic.

    And no, none of these Marines are protecting my right to say that—nobody is attacking the USA. 911 was a crime, not an act of war by any nation requiring military retaliation.

  5. Either prosecute all, or release the Two Soldier’s convicted of following orders, reverse their Felony Convictions, and give the Medical Under Honorable Military Discharges, back pay, and V.A. benefits.
    These were but the guards at Auswitz/Dachau/Abu Graid/whatever, following orders, Illegal, but orders, this was either torture, or enhanced interrogation, but this was Standard Operating Procedure, the S.O.P., of the day .
    Pvt./Sgt’s. do not get to make these types of decisions, period. These come from higher up the pay-grade.

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