Howard Zinn on class in America Pt 3 – social turmoil is not bad if it leads to something good
PAUL JAY, SENIOR EDITOR, TRNN: Welcome to The Real News Network coming from Boston with Howard Zinn. Thanks for joining us again. So we left off talking about—you were speaking about the necessity of a mass motion, some kind of a movement on the scale of Vietnam to send a message to President Obama, essentially, “Don’t listen to your advisers; listen to this movement.” Before we talk about how a movement like that might get built, why do so many people think that President Obama is anything other than who the advisers are he has picked. Hasn’t he picked people that more or less agree with him? Like, why do we think he’s any more than what he appears to be?
HOWARD ZINN, HISTORIAN AND AUTHOR: You know, every day I talk to people who represent just what you were talking about, friends of mine who have a hard time being critical of Obama and who keep defending his policies in various ways, weakly I must say (they wouldn’t think so, but weakly), saying things like, “Well, you know, he doesn’t have much choice,” or, you know, “Oh, give him more time.” But I think the reason for this reluctance to criticize Obama is that his election brought such an enormous wave of relief at finally getting rid of the Bush administration; and, of course, exuberance, justified exuberance, at having a first African-American in the White House; and the enthusiasm for this young, intelligent, articulate person who expressed himself so well.
Zinn: A reinvigorated labor movement needed for social upheaval