This Is Absolutely Insane! Michael Moore Responds To President Obama’s Afghanistan Speech

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December 01, 2009

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All Politicians Are Alike

An Open Letter to President Obama from Michael Moore

By Michael Moore
November 30, 2009 — Information Clearing House

Dear President Obama,

Do you really want to be the new “war president”? If you go to West Point tomorrow night (Tuesday, 8pm) and announce that you are increasing, rather than withdrawing, the troops in Afghanistan, you are the new war president. Pure and simple. And with that you will do the worst possible thing you could do — destroy the hopes and dreams so many millions have placed in you. With just one speech tomorrow night you will turn a multitude of young people who were the backbone of your campaign into disillusioned cynics. You will teach them what they’ve always heard is true — that all politicians are alike. I simply can’t believe you’re about to do what they say you are going to do. Please say it isn’t so.

It is not your job to do what the generals tell you to do. We are a civilian-run government. WE tell the Joint Chiefs what to do, not the other way around. That’s the way General Washington insisted it must be. That’s what President Truman told General MacArthur when MacArthur wanted to invade China. “You’re fired!,” said Truman, and that was that. And you should have fired Gen. McChrystal when he went to the press to preempt you, telling the press what YOU had to do. Let me be blunt: We love our kids in the armed services, but we f*#&in’ hate these generals, from Westmoreland in Vietnam to, yes, even Colin Powell for lying to the UN with his made-up drawings of WMD (he has since sought redemption).

So now you feel backed into a corner. 30 years ago this past Thursday (Thanksgiving) the Soviet generals had a cool idea — “Let’s invade Afghanistan!” Well, that turned out to be the final nail in the USSR coffin.

There’s a reason they don’t call Afghanistan the “Garden State” (though they probably should, seeing how the corrupt President Karzai, whom we back, has his brother in the heroin trade raising poppies). Afghanistan’s nickname is the “Graveyard of Empires.” If you don’t believe it, give the British a call. I’d have you call Genghis Khan but I lost his number. I do have Gorbachev’s number though. It’s + 41 22 789 1662. I’m sure he could give you an earful about the historic blunder you’re about to commit.

With our economic collapse still in full swing and our precious young men and women being sacrificed on the altar of arrogance and greed, the breakdown of this great civilization we call America will head, full throttle, into oblivion if you become the “war president.” Empires never think the end is near, until the end is here. Empires think that more evil will force the heathens to toe the line — and yet it never works. The heathens usually tear them to shreds.

Choose carefully, President Obama. You of all people know that it doesn’t have to be this way. You still have a few hours to listen to your heart, and your own clear thinking. You know that nothing good can come from sending more troops halfway around the world to a place neither you nor they understand, to achieve an objective that neither you nor they understand, in a country that does not want us there. You can feel it in your bones.

I know you know that there are LESS than a hundred al-Qaeda left in Afghanistan! A hundred thousand troops trying to crush a hundred guys living in caves? Are you serious? Have you drunk Bush’s Kool-Aid? I refuse to believe it.

Your potential decision to expand the war (while saying that you’re doing it so you can “end the war”) will do more to set your legacy in stone than any of the great things you’ve said and done in your first year. One more throwing a bone from you to the Republicans and the coalition of the hopeful and the hopeless may be gone — and this nation will be back in the hands of the haters quicker than you can shout “tea bag!”

Choose carefully, Mr. President. Your corporate backers are going to abandon you as soon as it is clear you are a one-term president and that the nation will be safely back in the hands of the usual idiots who do their bidding. That could be Wednesday morning.

We the people still love you. We the people still have a sliver of hope. But we the people can’t take it anymore. We can’t take your caving in, over and over, when we elected you by a big, wide margin of millions to get in there and get the job done. What part of “landslide victory” don’t you understand?

Don’t be deceived into thinking that sending a few more troops into Afghanistan will make a difference, or earn you the respect of the haters. They will not stop until this country is torn asunder and every last dollar is extracted from the poor and soon-to-be poor. You could send a million troops over there and the crazy Right still wouldn’t be happy. You would still be the victim of their incessant venom on hate radio and television because no matter what you do, you can’t change the one thing about yourself that sends them over the edge.

The haters were not the ones who elected you, and they can’t be won over by abandoning the rest of us.

President Obama, it’s time to come home. Ask your neighbors in Chicago and the parents of the young men and women doing the fighting and dying if they want more billions and more troops sent to Afghanistan. Do you think they will say, “No, we don’t need health care, we don’t need jobs, we don’t need homes. You go on ahead, Mr. President, and send our wealth and our sons and daughters overseas, ’cause we don’t need them, either.”

What would Martin Luther King, Jr. do? What would your grandmother do? Not send more poor people to kill other poor people who pose no threat to them, that’s what they’d do. Not spend billions and trillions to wage war while American children are sleeping on the streets and standing in bread lines.

All of us that voted and prayed for you and cried the night of your victory have endured an Orwellian hell of eight years of crimes committed in our name: torture, rendition, suspension of the bill of rights, invading nations who had not attacked us, blowing up neighborhoods that Saddam “might” be in (but never was), slaughtering wedding parties in Afghanistan. We watched as hundreds of thousands of Iraqi civilians were slaughtered and tens of thousands of our brave young men and women were killed, maimed, or endured mental anguish — the full terror of which we scarcely know.

When we elected you we didn’t expect miracles. We didn’t even expect much change. But we expected some. We thought you would stop the madness. Stop the killing. Stop the insane idea that men with guns can reorganize a nation that doesn’t even function as a nation and never, ever has.

Stop, stop, stop! For the sake of the lives of young Americans and Afghan civilians, stop. For the sake of your presidency, hope, and the future of our nation, stop. For God’s sake, stop.

Tonight we still have hope.

Tomorrow, we shall see. The ball is in your court. You DON’T have to do this. You can be a profile in courage. You can be your mother’s son.

We’re counting on you.

Yours, Michael Moore

P.S. There’s still time to have your voice heard. Call the White House at 202-456-1111 or email the President. Michael Moore is an activist, author, and filmmaker.  See more of his work at his website


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15 thoughts on “This Is Absolutely Insane! Michael Moore Responds To President Obama’s Afghanistan Speech

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  3. What condition US’ condition is in: Obama – “we will meet ourselves crawling out as we are crawling in” (and the enemy is US!). Moore’s righ… er, correct: It’s Manifest Insanity!

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  9. It has been reported that there is a remote possibility beings in space somewhere might have weapons of mass destruction. The United States of America has no option left except to attack all of outer space.

  10. Today, the forces of darkness won another major battle. The evil doers, war mongers and haters are celebrating their victory over a dream shattered, a hope lost, a legacy never fulfilled and what could’ve been.

    I hate it when the bad guys win, and today they won, and won big. What a waste of tears that were shed on that glorious night, when the world over danced and cried when they thought that a very ugly, horrible and bloody era had ended with the departure of the vultures of hate and greed. The hearts of so many mothers, whose children were still alive and fighting two senseless wars, danced with jubilation at the thought of their boys and girls were coming home soon, and the nightmare would be soon over.

    How crushed and trembling with fear they must be feeling today and what horror they must be enduring now. The hellish nightmare has been revived and its ugly head will be looming and hovering over the heads of the mothers, fathers, sons and daughters of our soldiers every time their telephone rings, filling them with feelings of terror that an impersonal voice on the other end may be about to notify them that their loved ones have just joined the long list of the poor fallen.

    The part that really saddens and burns me is that I know that Obama knows in his heart of hearts that it’s a waste of time, money and lives, and that we aren’t going to win that unwinnable war, and that we are going to leave there sometime down the road, in a year, two or maybe more, without having accomplished any thing worth mentioning. But, for sure, we’ll have killed many thousands more, most of whom will be innocent civilians, and of course many of our young men and women will have lost their lives or were maimed for the sake of absolutely nothing, other than putrid arrogance, bruised, sociopathic egos, and the insatiable greed of some of our corporate entities who will be the only benefactors of this mayhem and carnage we are inflicting on their innocent and ours.

    Congratulations to the league of doom and agents of the grim reaper from the Republican extreme right who were handed a victory on a silver platter, a victory of death and blood. I have no doubt that they are celebrating today a great achievement and toasting their laden-with-blood conquest over the voices of peace and reason.

    By the way Mr. President, sorry to burst your bubble if you were thinking that the Republicans are going to hate you less after today. As a matter of fact, they will hate you now even more, because you acted Republican, while you are still the same Obama they despise and love to hate. They will find something wrong with what you did today, anything, like you are going to send 30,000 instead of 40,000. You’ll stay in their minds and hearts that same old black, socialist, Muslim Kenyan guy, no matter what you do. They are never going to like you Mr, President, and they will never support any thing you do or ask for, even if it was identical to what they ask for, because their problem is with you personally and nothing short of getting rid of you, one way or another, would suffice.

    We, and many in this world, hoped that you would be the one who makes history, and you did, but sadly you did it the wrong way. Will you ever recover and wake up from this nightmare you got yourself, with your own hands, entangled with? I doubt it very much. We lost faith in you, the one man who could’ve but never did – how sad for America and the world!!

  11. A deplorable decision.
    The “allies” cannot free the Afghan women or children.
    Someone said on CNN, that a motor vehicle licensing TAX, was needed, WT* ? ?
    Sec. of State, said that the Afghans have to raise tax revenue, Ok, you told them Ms. Sec., its up to them.
    It’s becoming clear, this test is a trial, for a World Taxation scheme.
    Wake Up, smell the {fill in the blank}.

  12. War in the 21st century: I don’t think military leaders, including the President, understand the difference between a “gang” (faction) and an “army.” Traditionally, an “army” is when a group is massive and identified by country or region and wears an identifying uniform, whereas a “gang” (faction )is a much smaller organized group who are not identified by clothing or country.

    The war we are in is an economic power surge, and the appetites of consumers (we in this “normal” land who are still able to be selective about our “daily bread,” etc.,) are also being fed double messages. Growing poppies, for example, wouldn’t be a profitable commodity (economic base) in Afghanistan if there weren’t wealthy enough (or desperate enough) consumers right here in our land and elsewhere.

    So “who are the people” in the We the People? Who can sort through the many levels of motivation and pragmatic desire? These are Our Times and Obama, et al need to get out of the boxes they are trying to maintain, stop trying to have it both ways.

    I am a pacifist, and I am not pacified by what’s going on. In that sense, I, too, am required to CREATE anew my personal way of living. I cannot live in a double standard of any kind, and I don’t see America as the savior of other worlds! And, I am weary of the spectacle performances (ceremonies) of the White House.

    Michael Moore tells his truth. I am muddling through my own in this writing. I read and listen to others, the contrasts and similarities help me with my own map-making. This process IS (everyone’s) freedom with and without mandates or external consensus.


  13. What we have here is a classic case of American ethno-centricism. Afghanistan is not a nation that is likely to embrace an idea as historically foreign to them as democracy any time soon (And when I say “any time soon” I am speaking in terms of the next one-thousand years – give or take a few centuries). How can a country be expected to enter the twenty-first century when that same country has yet to experience all of the modern wonders of the nineteenth? This is a really bad idea.

    “And it’s – ONE! TWO! THREE! – What are we fighting for?”

    Country Joe and the Fish

    Well, hey there! Come to think of it, that’s a damned good question when you get right down to it: Just what the heck are we fighting for? Let us examine the possibilities, shall we?

    American interests? It can’t be that! Given the fact that Afghanistan’s only export seems to be opium, and taking into consideration our fabulously successful war on drugs….Nah! It couldn’t be that!

    Freedom and democracy? Tee! Hee! Hee! I’m sorry, I was just kidding! The Afghan people are now living under the rule of a “leader” who is now in power because he stole the recent election. Hamid Karzai is many things – you’ll get no argument from me there! – Thomas Jefferson he ain’t. Trust me on that. Let this be etched in stone: Any country that views its women as inferior beings not worthy of basic human rights is a country not worth one drop of anyone’s blood. NEXT….

    Aiding a developing nation? In order for a country to be classified “developing”, a bit of “development” should at least be moderately apparent. Afghanistan is stuck in the fifth century and seems intent on remaining there.

    What are we fighting for?

    Let me rephrase that: What are the children of the poor and working classes fighting for? Between you and me, I’ve only known one person in combat in the last seven years. I don’t know him anymore. He was killed when a roadside bomb was detonated in front of the vehicle in which he was a passenger. His name was Irving Medina. He was twenty-two.

    What was Irving Medina fighting for?

    Tom Degan
    Goshen, NY

  14. Dear Michael.
    Thanks for your comments and your open letter – I could not agree more. Enjoyed your latest film immensely.
    Erling Jensen

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