by Alex Smith
June 23, 2010
RICHARD C. HOAGLAND: “Gas explosion, 50 miles off Louisiana, that you can imagine. Think Mount St. Helens, underwater. What that would do is create a cloud of incredible toxic material, which would then drift with the winds over the shore, where there are millions of people…”
GEORGE NOORY: “What about a tsunami?”
R. Hoagland: “The next step is you would get a tsunami.”
Oh please. And some of this garbage went out over hundreds of stations on Coast to Coast AM. It gets worse. I expect this to triumph on You tube. But the whole story, based on un-named geologists, inside government sources, and, wait for it, aliens, was reworked by DK Matai – and reposted on sites that should know better, like the Huffington Post.
Incidentally, when I added a comment on the Huffington Post, criticizing their sources, and noting the strict similarity of the story to that by Richard Hoagland – my comment was never published. Censorship at the Post? Not liking criticism?
Really. Listen to the Hoagland interview, and then read Matai – it looks like a paraphrase to me – and neither cites any sources we can check.
As far as I can tell, the original source for these Gulf terror stories is Richard C. Hoagland, who explained it all on the George Noory Show. The same theory was remade by Dr. Bill Deagle, on Bill Ryan’s Project Avalon show. And what do all these people have in common?
DR. BILL DEAGLE: “This is being driven by trans-dimensional super-beings, the Gods of the ancient world, the same ones like Apollo, Appoleon – there’s a whole list of the names. And I can actually give you the names. If people want to know they can go back to James Wier’s Book of Demonology, 1535. They are sequestered in the Vatican Library if people are listening that know about this…”
Dr. Bill Deagle, talking to Bill Ryan on the Project Avalon podcast June 16, 2010.
Deagle’s explanation of the coming Gulf explosion and tsunami are so close to that given first by Richard Hoagland, that host Bill Ryan remarks on it. Deagle says he got it all from his own sources. The theory all sounds sort of possible, with lots of faux geology thrown in, but really, all of the above people, Hoagland, Deagle and Ryan, believe aliens run the show here on Earth, and probably caused this spill, for their own nefarious purposes.
Meanwhile, as we’ll hear from Stephanie Mencimer, an investigative reporter for Mother Jones magazine – the far-right and some Tea Party movement agree the Gulf spill is a plot to move Dixie into horrible FEMA camps – while Obama kills off America with the dreaded carbon tax.
Have we lost our collective minds? Why do Americans love to terrorize themselves?
I’m going to make a bold prediction. The BP well is not going to cause the Gulf of Mexico to erupt into a world-ending volcano. Millions of people will not die because of this. There will be no tsunami.
Any of these so-called experts could find that out by simply asking a few sane scientists. That’s what I did for this week’s show.
We’ll ask Dr. Samantha Joye, an expert on both oil and the deepwater Gulf about these viral fears. More important, Dr. Joye is just back from a research mission in the Gulf, to measure those underwater plumes of oil and gas. You’ll get the latest. For her full press briefing after returning from the Gulf (49 minutes) click here.
Then we go to the Chief Scientist of the big conservation group Oceana, Dr. Michael Hirshfield, to investigate a REAL threat to the Gulf: masses of methane are accumulating under the sea – and leaking out into the atmosphere as potent climate changing gases. What does that mean for sea life, and for the oil industry?
Three interviews, and then I’ll return to our deepest fears, looking at the cranksters who love to wind us up, with bed time stories. And one more rumor about geopolitics – why America needs BP to feed the war machine.
I’m Alex Smith. Let’s get started, with the newest science first.
[Dr. Joye interview 15 minutes, 3 MB ]
In the interview, Dr. Joye mentioned the plumes wouldn’t have formed except for not only the depth, but the fact that the oil and natural gas are coming out fast, like a jet. Here is a place to see a video experiment in a tank, showing how simple oil leaks go to the top, but as soon as they are under pressure, like the Gulf well, then a plume forms which does not rise to the surface.
A little later in the program, we’ll check out the new worries about giant plums of methane in the Gulf of Mexico, and the fear of dead zones. But right now, I’d like to get back to the crazy side, with Stephanie Mencimer of Mother Jones magazine. Are you ready to be enslaved?
This is Radio Ecoshock – I’m Alex. Next up: a shot of science from an expert who just testified before Congress – Dr. Michael Hirshfield. He says the time for offshore oil is coming to an end.
[Hirshfield interview 15 minutes 3 MB
We mostly talked about the new threat of methane coming in high volumes from the Deepwater drill site. There is lots of press coverage on it, like this article: “Methane is newest BP oil spill threat for the Gulf of Mexico.” Or this story from AP.
After I talked with Mike Hirshfield, I began to think more about those methane clathrates. Dr. Kessler of Texas A&M U confirms this Gulf gusher is indeed the largest single release of methane in the human record.
Some of that will get into the air, possibly punching up the temperatures in the coming decade. Most of it will freeze down in the deep sea, waiting to erupt 50 or a hundred years from now, a curse for our descendents. And it all could have stayed safely deep under the Earth, where Nature put it.
You have to wonder how much carbon is going up from all those billowing black gulf oil fires. Some of those burn 2,000 gallons at a crack. BP says it’s main rig and the Q4000 ship can burn up to 420,000 gallons of oil a day, and they are aiming for up to 2 million gallons. Another article says BP is burning 600,000 gallons a day, already.
Professor Jeff Chanton from Florida State University says somewhere between 10 to 50 percent of the methane coming out of the well is reaching the atmosphere, partly because oil is coating the bubbles. Jennifer Grayson, Editor of the Red, White and Green did some rough calculations, based on a lowball estimate of just 15,000 barrels of oil a day leaking from the well.
Grayson does the conversions, and says that methane equals 13 thousand metric tons of CO2 equivalent a day – “more than 80 percent of the daily CO2 emissions for the entire New York metro area.” But really, the spill is at least four times larger than that. It’s rough math, but we can all agree, this ain’t good for the climate.
Over at the Real Climate blog, David gives a different perspective. Just living our fossil-fueled lives, driving around, we are all leaking the equivalent of about 2,000 Gulf Oil spills a day. Our lives are just carbon-making machines.
I’m still wondering what they are doing with all the weathered oil collected in plastic bags by clean-up workers. One guess: it will go back into deep injection wells on land. So we’ve reached complete carbon capture and storage already! Why bother with the middle layer of consumers. Just haul it out of the sea, and shoot it straight back underground. We’d be better off than if we burned it all into the atmosphere.
Talking about the whackos and fear-merchants opening this program, I forgot about Pastor Lindsey Williams on the Alex Jones show. He’ll put the fear of God into you, and help Ted’s GCN network sell you some gold, with tales of chemical poisoning of the Gulf population. It’s over the top, and it’s maybe kinda true. Catch that on You tube, all those links are in my Radio Ecoshock show blog for June 24th, 2010.
For a cleansing breath of fresh air, try this article by Naomi Klein in the Guardian newspaper.
Speaking of over the top and maybe true, I promised you the geo-political grand-daddy rumor of the Gulf. This one comes from Wayne Madsen, a kind of spook investigator, Washington insider, broadcaster and podcaster.
Writing at oilprice.com, Madsen says, quote:
“…sources within the U.S. Army Corps of Engineers and the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA), the Pentagon and Interior and Energy Departments told the Obama Administration that the newly-discovered estimated 3-4 billion barrels of oil in the Gulf of Mexico would cover America’s oil needs for up to eight months if there was a military attack on Iran that resulted in the bottling up of the Strait of Hormuz to oil tanker traffic, resulting in a cut-off of oil to the United States from the Persian Gulf. Obama, Salazar, Chu, and Gates green-lighted the risky Macondo drilling operation from the outset, according to WMR’s government sources.
WMR learned that BP was able to have several safety checks waved because of the high-level interest by the White House and Pentagon in tapping the Gulf of Mexico bonanza find in order to plan a military attack on Iran without having to be concerned about an oil and natural gas shortage from the Persian Gulf after an outbreak of hostilities with Iran.”
You can find out more at http://www.waynemadsenreport.com/
“BP is the single biggest supplier of fuel to the Department of Defense, with Pentagon contracts worth $2.2 billion a year, according to government records. BP is also the largest producer of oil on federal waters in the Gulf of Mexico, which makes it a significant contributor of revenue to the government.”
Several sources, like here, and here – report eleven American warships, including the aircraft carrier USS Truman, plus some Israeli navy ships, passing through the Suez Canal in mid-June. The Iranians complain they are being set up for an attack.
So who knows, maybe the Administration and the Pentagon are really counting on their single biggest supplier of fuel. It’s possible they helped BP speed up the Deepwater Horizon hole, to get a production rig on there ASAP. If so, the geopolitics of the Middle East may have contributed to the Gulf oil disaster. Is it too much to hope that losing this field, and other coming Gulf production, could deter a crazy attack on Iran?
It’s a strange old world. Almost anything is possible. Even peace.
Get ready for a good Summer. It may be the best we have for a while.
P.S. I was just checking the web server that delivers Radio Ecoshock programs, and was please to see listeners have downloaded over 20,000 shows in the first 21 days of June. That’s a decent audience just from downloads, not to mention our radio stations. Thanks a lot to all of you for passing on the word!