with Chris Hedges
Originally on RT America on Aug 28, 2021
The Chris Hedges YouTube Channel on Jul 5, 2022
On the show today, Chris Hedges discusses the lies and fantasies told by the mainstream environmental movement about how to solve the climate crisis with authors and activists Derrick Jensen and Lierre Keith.
A new book shows how technology will not solve our environmental crisis. We will not extract ourselves from the death march towards extinction by recycling, building wind turbines, relying on solar panels or driving electric cars. This is a fantasy, sold to us by an environmental movement that promises we can continue to indulge in orgies of consumption and maintain the levels of waste and perpetual growth that define the industrial age.
The fact is our time is up. The forests are dying. Water is polluted, and in many places poisoned. Industrial farming is depleting the soil. The coral reefs are crumbling under the acid assault of carbon. Species are going extinct. Temperatures are soaring. Each of the last four decades have been hotter than the last. Soaring temperature rises — we are already at a 1.2°C (2.16° F) above pre-industrial levels — are already baked into the system, meaning that even if we stopped all carbon emission today, we still face catastrophe. Anything above a temperature rise of 1.5° C will render the earth unhabitable.
The Arctic ice along with the Greenland ice sheet are now expected to melt regardless of how much we reduce carbon emissions. A seven-meter (23-foot) rise in sea level, which is what will take place once the ice is gone, means every town and city on a coast at sea level will have to be evacuated. We must radically reconfigure how we live, and this means largely dismantling industrial society, or the human species, and most other species, will vanish, joining the long list of species that once roamed the earth and are no more.
Derrick Jensen, Lierre Keith and Max Wilbert’s new book is Bright Green Lies: How the Environmental Movement Lost its Way and What we Can do About It.
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There Will Be No Ferries Coming To Save Us, by Kenn Orphan
Turning Up The Heat, by Rivera Sun
The Phoenix Moment, by Rivera Sun
David Swanson: We Can’t Save the Climate Without Ending War
Peter Carter: Are “Net-Zero” Emissions a Smoke Screen?
Those Least Responsible For Global Warming Will Pay The Highest Price For It, by Pete Dolack
The Ravages of Lithium Extraction in Chile, by Yanis Iqbal
Chris Hedges and Jeff Gibbs: Criticism and Censorship of Michael Moore’s Film “Planet of the Humans”
Spot on! Excellent heads-up. It’s an ecological emergency, this terminal orgy of consumption ~ a radically emergent exponential crisis.
Of course, the general attitude is invariably ‘let’s keep our cake but eat it.’ Self-delusion born of a susceptibility to believe one’s own prejudices and the psycho-political propaganda that engenders and supports those conditioned tendencies, that is the rule not the exception. So what must we do &/or, abstain from doing?
I’d propose two premises, as generic principles to ground this exponential ‘fuel’ and ecosystem crisis that is acutely affecting the Ocean and (directly through forced deforestation, extraction indifference and vulgar plantation logic) our vital atmosphere and food ‘chain.’ If we allow further species loss, we shall be the species to suffer the most.
The initial rapid-reactionary option might be to coordinate, trim, mutate, adapt and streamline our gargantuan (international) war machinery into an ‘ecological’ humanitarian planetary agency ~ a system that can effectively respond to disastrous events (anywhere;) as these are bound to occur with increasing regularity, eg imminent Hurricane Ida. The ‘force and fire’ of ecosystemic climate change is far more powerful than any ordnance or destructive artifice humans can muster.
If we want to do this successfully, we must swiftly downsize and ‘naturalise’ the obscene cult of consumer capital accumulation and waste, for its own sake; that is to say, do everything humanly possible to adapt to a more realistic and sustainable approach to the natural biodynamics of real life, in all its staggering diversity. China needs to be at the heart of this sea-change.
It is an existential crisis that must be faced by all sentient adults, competent enough to understand the reality and determined to grasp the nettle…
Thank you for your commentary, David, as always, good points.
End Capitalism and end war!
Please air an interview where the authors go over the ‘what we can do about it’ section of the book, even if it raises false hopes. At this point, false hopes are better than none. Of course, we live in a country where people are prepared to kidnap and murder a governor because they can’t get a haircut, their nails done, or drink at their favorite bar, but…..
John, Dandelion Salad does not make videos.
Here are some other interviews with the authors: https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=Derrick+Jensen%2C+Lierre+Keith+and+Max+Wilbert
Also, https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Bright+Green+Lies%3A+How+the+Environmental+Movement+Lost+its+Way+and+What+we+Can+do+About+It&ia=web and/or https://duckduckgo.com/?q=Derrick+Jensen%2C+Lierre+Keith+and+Max+Wilbert&ia=web
Excellent point in your last sentence. How people are handling the Covid-19 pandemic is just a preview on what’s going to happen in the near future with the increase of climate disasters, etc. Already there are many supply-chain difficulties, crop failures, water shortages, etc. and it’s only going to get worse.
Yeah, while my wife and I will probably escape the total collapse, I’m not so sure about our daughters. Our grandkids will undoubtedly live in a world of violent chaos that will make Mad Max movies look like musical comedies.
Excellent interview. Mainstream environmental movement has been lying. What this interview doesn’t emphasize enough is that lies are motivated by profit. To see the truth on this and all other issues, and to survive, we must end capitalism.
Yes, agree with you, Lefty.
‘Ending Capitalism’ could be a tad tricky lefty.
They own most of the WMDs, armies and media outlets.
No, I think Mother Nature will do that for us.