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Chris Hedges: NDAA: This Is The Final Battle Between The Restoration Of Due Process and The Imposition Of A Military State (updated)

with Chris Hedges
Featured Writer
Dandelion Salad
February 6, 2013

In two weeks civil liberty in America is threatened. Will you stand up for your rights? #stopndaa

Image by tassoart via Flickr

Chris Hedges: NDAA May Already Be Detaining Americans 2/6/13

Kenny Steven Fuentes·Feb 6, 2013

Chris Hedges speaks at the 2/6/13 press conference following oral arguments made at Federal Courthouse in New York City. Hedges v. Obama challenges key provisions of the 2012 National Defense Authorization Act that legalize indefinite detention of American citizens. Learn more at www.StopNDAA.org

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April Watters·Feb 6, 2013

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NDAA Appeal Hearing Press Conf 2/6/13

April Watters·Feb 6, 2013

The last NDAA appeal hearing before the Supreme Court. Judge Katherine Forrest did not preside over this hearing. A panel of 3 male judges heard the approx 1 hr arguments from both Plaintiff Attorneys and the Gov Attorney.

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April Watters·Feb 6, 2013

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Challenging NDAA Indefinite Detention, First Panel

Joe Friendly·Feb 6, 2013

Plaintiffs and supporters in the Hedges v. Obama lawsuit challenging the controversial indefinite detention provision set forth in § 1021(b)(2) of the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA). Pulitzer prize-winning journalist Chris Hedges, whistle-blower Daniel Ellsberg, NDAA Case Coordinator Tangerine Bolen, lawsuit counsel Bruce Afran & Carl Mayer, David Segal, Executive Director of Demand Progress, and journalist Alexa O’Brien, moderated by Natasha Lennard of Salon.com and Matt Sledge of The Huffington Post.discuss the profound erosion of liberties cemented by the 2012 NDAA, a pattern of abuse and intimidation on the part of the Obama DOJ toward publishers, whistleblowers and activists, and the creative efforts of the widely disparate groups that have joined the lawsuit team and its supporters from around the world. Earlier in the day, February 6, 2013, was argument before the 2nd Circuit in which the US appealed the historic ruling by Judge Katherine Forrest in favor of the plaintiffs.

Sponsored by RevolutionTruth, Demand Progress, The Sparrow Project, New York Civil Liberties Union, Young Professionals, Culture Project’s ‘Blueprint for Accountability’ Series.
camera: Joe Friendly

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Challenging NDAA Indefinite Detention, Second Panel

Joe Friendly·Feb 7, 2013

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Chris Hedges NDAA update

wearechange·Feb 7, 2013

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Daniel Ellsburg on the NDAA Lawsuit

wearechange·Feb 7, 2013

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Exclusive NDAA Coverage: URGENT Call to Action!

breakingtheset·Feb 7, 2013

EPISODE BREAKDOWN: On this episode of Breaking the Set, Abby Martin takes an in depth look at the lawsuit against the National Defense Authorization Act’s indefinite detention clause, starting with a short look at just how many people actually know about it. Abby then talks to one of the plaintiffs spearheading the lawsuit, Tangerine Bolen, about how the suit came to be, and why the corporate media has not picked up the story, Abby also talks to former whistleblower, Jesselyn Radack, about the extent and reach of the NDAA as it applies to journalists, activists and whistleblowers. BTS wraps up the show with an interview with journalist, author and lead plaintiff in the case against indefinite detention, Chris Hedges, about the historical precedent the NDAA lawsuit sets, and why every American should care.


Chris Hedges spent two decades as a foreign reporter covering wars in Latin America, Africa, Europe and the Middle East. His latest books are Days of Destruction, Days of Revolt, Death of the Liberal Class, and The World as It Is: Dispatches on the Myth of Human Progress.

see

The NDAA and the Death of the Democratic State by Chris Hedges

The American Manifest Destiny by Clive Hambidge

Chris Hedges: NDAA: All These Laws Are Being Put Through By Design

Daniel Ellsberg: NDAA Indefinite Detention Provision is Part of Systematic Assault on Constitution + Kill List Exposed

The 2012 NDAA – The Most Dangerous Law Since the Civil War

Statement by the President on H.R. 4310 + Obama Signs NDAA 2013 + Kucinich: Indefinite Detention Part of Push to Shred Constitution

NDAA–The Final Battle by Chris Hedges

Congress Expands Spying On Americans + Nadler: More Oversight Needed for Warrantless Wiretaps + Kucinich: Let’s Vote Against Big Brother

Blowing the Whistle on Obama’s America

Thomas Drake: After 9/11, NSA had secret deal with White House

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  10. I asked the last question at the end of the 2nd panel discussion. Although Dan Ellsberg did not really answer it, I believe it raises a thought-provoking issue, i.e., (a) what can we as indivduals do tomorrow, next week and going forward to help both this campaign and more importantly the larger campaign to undo the National Security State,its imperial overreach and the corporate stranglehold of our nation?(b) perhaps it’s time to re-think our tactics to include a new paradigm of promoting and being prepared to take advantage of one or more ‘tipping points’ (taking a page from both the PNAC & Naomi Klein). What form might an effective tipping point take?

    • Nathaniel

      (b) Perhaps it’s time to re-think our tactics to include a new paradigm of promoting and being prepared to take advantage of one or more ‘tipping points’ (taking a page from both the PNAC & Naomi Klein). What form might an effective tipping point take?

      The stages were set for this event but think about what was missing? The thought to be the most wise set in the light all others were in the dark. So what kind of kind natured model is that?

      Of course those that were thought to be the most wise were creating and conducting the program in an effort to gain more followers and to help with the expenses of doing.

      Therefore your words ring clear what form might an effective tipping point take?

      I submit that people involved in seizing opportunities of any kind must meet eye to eye in an atmosphere of openness and cheer. The French Café culture where many with different backgrounds educations and occupations met was the tipping point that came about to thwart then stop Hitler’s invasion.

      Small groups are much better than large. And quietness about gathering chatting and commingling is most important I think that is the New Paradigm that needs to begin in every community.

    • Nathaniel, personally I think you were part of a truly historic event. I’m not a US citizen so have no business advising anyone how to live in their own country, but my hunch is the big tipping point ahead is the international status and future of the dollar.

      I reckon Ellen Brown is on the right track, State banks.

      When I lived in Canada from the late sixties, there was huge anxiety over the breakup of the country mostly over Quebec. Then came NAFTA. Now tar sands fascism and the massive threat to the environment.

      I’m a staunch supporter of Idle No More. Maybe if the US were to take it all back home, be self-sufficient again in wholesome natural food, look after the animals, eliminate state corruption and listen to youth, then maybe the Americas as a whole could be reinvented pole to pole; and Black Elk’s vision of the great hoop of the nations embraced as a pure symbol of ecological survival.

    • Nathaniel , very good question . Martial law is a gradual thing in American history ,except for during the Civil War , then it was an obviuos dictatorship.
      It was a little less obviuos when President Adams put forth the Sedition act.
      the thing that is so insidouis about Barak Obama is that he is a constitutinal lawyer . He knows history..and he knows that he does not want to make the ;”tipping point ” obviuos .
      that is why vigilance on everything is so important , Chris Hedges seems to be the man for the hour .
      you may want to go back to writings of Nat Hentoff in his book ”Freedom of speech for me but not for thee ”, also his work in the Village Voice on John Ashcroft as Attorney General .

  11. Essentially what the Obama administration has done is legalize what the Bush Administration did through an executive order.

  12. I went to the rally and the forum. My sign read: The right to your own mind .. and that to me is the crux of the matter. Chris was absolutely fabulous throughout the day. He was at his Ultimate Best …

  13. Hedges v. Obama. This is the most important civil liberties case to come up in decades that allows the military to detain US citizens w/out due process indefinitely. If you notice there is not one major corporate media outlet covering this. It’s being covered by WBAI, DN, RT and other independent media outlets. If this passes we will be living in a complete police state and will have no recourse and no civil liberties.

    • Jill,

      I believe if you do the research you will find out that in the Patriotic Act that from any of our borders inward fifty miles those that live in those areas lost all their Constitutional Rights at that time of signing.

      So all the deep seated anger and hostility that is shown to be ever present reminds me of the Occupy movement yet that had nothing to demand except let us live where we want too?

      And then all kind of silly groups came out against the clout of our elected leaders and asked for money to fund this and that but in most cases it was ALL WRONG.

      And in the end faded away like many staged events we see today marching for this and that all over the globe with one or two mouthpieces shouting out slogans for this and that but lacking is a rock solid core demanding their voices be heard and their votes counted on every pending legislation and now today every executive order.

      Lastly I made a horrible mistake once when State Farm owed me money for personal injury if I had set still they would have been forced by law to pay me or maybe get the axe in Texas, but I listened to an old friend lawyer and got an attorney to represent me in court— the fatal mistake was that the Judge was on the side of State Farm. So I sat for years without any money to get medical treatments for my injuries but in the end my God took my hand and made things right again for my wife and I.

    • Our sanctimonious “world” seems indifferent to the gravity and historic significance of this case. Of course, that “world” is a corporate simulacrum projected by the morally bankrupt (Burke’s) fourth estate peddlers of pap.

      It was a great relief to hear Daniel Ellsburg on Democracy Now refer to this venal corruption of due process, as a clearly impeachable criminal breach of civil liberties.

      “President” Obama and his revolving-door cronies should be very worried. The Emperor’s invincible GMO garments are shredding away by the hour.

      There’s more than one way to whip up a political hurricane.

      • David Groundswells of discontentment is a sure sign that our messages are getting heard—so with that we still have a voice.

        Now the ascension up to the top of the heap where the power bosses make rules and sends them down for their paid for polluting politicians to do is like a cold coke when opened it fizzes.

        Gosh the faint at heart scumbag power bosses begins to run off—but many of them live in caves away from the sight of us just ordinary humans. Try to get in and look around where the Rockefeller groups are huddled up like scared mice —thinking what could those far less than us do to upset our rule?

      • david, even before Obama got elected i was working with Nader for president, and since then until now so many of my friends have been totally under the Obama spell. but it is starting (in the first phase of lifting). still a long way to go though. the NDAA is the dealbreaker. they cannot deny that. they can ignore the drones, and all the rest , but when i press the point that Obama has shredded the 4th amendment, and i get very specific, they have nothing to respond with.

        • R: I have no doubt you’re right.
          It’s difficult for Europeans to identify with the US process. After all the EU doesn’t have a single language, even though English tends to predominate; but that is because of America, NATO etc. In London now they say we have over a hundred languages being spoken all the time.
          I’ve been following the NDAA issue closely, but I think very few people here have a clue about what is going on.

  14. Don’t get caught up in Slave Talk

    Remember that What is Right is Right and what is Wrong does not Belong in our ways of communicating.

    I will never defend anyone that does not see a cure for what ails us on the horizon. That in my terms is Slave Talk for what is man if not someone made in Gods image to bring about peace, prosperity and protection for his family first then his connected community next.

    My families existed for generations using those things as daily examples how to live. They all worked hard and kept their minds and hands in their works of life 24/7. They did the same in the worship of their God for they worked to help those in the community loaning tools and helping get crops in and helping the women and children that became destitute because of things in life gone wrong.

    And I can’t remember a time when any of them ever talked about giving in and giving up, as my Great Uncle one asked Dwight who is the government and young and dumb I said —- I guess those in Washington DC— he quickly said NO YOU are the Government.

    That has stuck and good that it has, I can lay my head down on the pillow and rest because I am confident that my God has all the cures for what ails.

  15. Proof abounds that the SEE SAW YAW of the LAW continues to exist against us.

    From antiquity laws were originated for the ownership of land and all other property. Then who and why were those laws put in effect? It was done for those who had the greatest amount of money. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hammurabi

    GOD instituted the Laws of Moses for people to be able to live together in harmony. Those laws were just and were and are proved out to be justifiable in all ways. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ten_Commandments

    When the workers in Greece began their long journey toward living in a Democracy they were challenged over and over again by those that proved out to be some of the first that used the SEE SAW YAW of the LAW to take what ever they wanted from the people they were suppose to serve. Or just THEFT from the people.

    Now with the NDAA and all the other pitiful things that fill our lives with pages of briefs and lawyers from both sides appearing from what we call judges is for me and some of you just TOO MUCH TO HANDLE.

    WHY? Home is where we live laws and law enforcement is where we live. We have problems right here in Texas that needs fixing. We live in a county that has gone wild for years with officials that have stolen maybe millions. Yes, many of them have been indicted and others are gathering attorneys to help them try to get out of this mess they have created.

    While viewing the Video’s I thought I have been to New York City and I would not give a THIN DIME to live there. WHY, that entire city living culture is caught up on photo ops as if those things can sway public opinion. I listened to the words intently to try to see how I could if I would fit in to help. But sad to say I did not see me fitting in at any level.

    One writer used the words of paranoia of the rich and powerful the other day and to me that makes more sense than any other.

    George Bush was a fake fraud and despot as in little boys’ body and mind. He just followed orders of the day provided by Cheney and Rumsfield, it was not even their orders but ones that had been developed in think or stink tanks paid for by the rich and powerful. So what has changed over these thousands of years NOT A THING.

    So what is there really for us to do take care of home first then in the end of all things like this those that impose the SEE SAW YAW of the LAW they will meet their downfall and fall. But then again just wait for a while and here those that generate evil will be up to it again.

    • The Laws of Moses were for Jews ONLY, btw. Gentiles were excluded. Maybe the Christian Science Monitor is the best place for Gawd talk.

      • Kevin

        I doubt if you are right about Gentiles being excluded — the point was clear that as laws evolved one was for the sake of money and the other was for humanity. And that is where we are still stuck out and hung out today.

      • Dwight has my full permission to write about God on Dandelion Salad blog posts as long as it’s on topic, of course.

      • Kevin , it will take the real God talk to expose the fraudelent ”Gawd talk” that this president uses in his speeches when he weaves phoney speeches about killing terrorists . That is why Hedges never leaves out the real theology in his work .

  16. I support the war on terrorism. Let us start by arresting GWBush and go from there…

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