See also: Zeitgeist Refuted Final Cut
Found another debunking of the film Zeitgeist, he goes into all 3 parts: Debunked: Zeitgeist – Parts I, II and III ~ Lo
Here’s the latest version of Zeitgeist: Zeitgeist, The Movie – Remastered/Final Edition Watch it and these and think for yourself, do the research. ~ Lo
1 hr 30 min 42 sec – 2007-12-19
Zeitgeist Refuted OLD VERSION
Elliott Nesch on Jan 30, 2013
Even secular scholars have rejected the idea of Christianity borrowing from the ancient mysteries. The well-respected Sir Edward Evans-Pritchard writes in Theories of Primitive Religion that “The evidence for this theory… is negligible.”
“The first real parallel of a dying and rising god does not appear until A.D. 150, more than a hundred years after the origin of Christianity. So if there was any influence of one on the other, it was the influence of the historical event of the New Testament [resurrection] on mythology, not the reverse. The only known account of a god surviving death that predates Christianity is the Egyptian cult god Osiris. In this myth, Osiris is cut into fourteen pieces, scattered around Egypt, then reassembled and brought back to life by the goddess Isis. However, Osiris does not actually come back to physical life but becomes a member of a shadowy underworld…This is far different than Jesus’ resurrection account where he was the gloriously risen Prince of life who was seen by others on earth before his ascension into heaven.” –Dr. Norman Geisler
“Not one clear case of any alleged resurrection teaching appears in any pagan text before the late second century A.D., almost one hundred years after the New Testament was written.” –Dr. Gary Habermas
This film refutes the following claims made in the film Zeitgeist: -Christianity was borrowed from pagan myths? -The Bible was plagiarized? -Jesus wasn’t a historical figure? -Christianity was created for social control? -The Bible is based on astrology?
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Zeitgeist sources exposed, truth about the films agenda
JOSEPHUS: (37-101 A.D.)
Josephus was born in Jerusalem only four years after Jesus’ crucifixion. He was an eyewitness to much of what he recorded in the first century A.D. Josephus mentions many events and people from the Gospels. Josephus was an Orthodox Jew who was commissioned by the Romans to write a history of the Jewish people and Rome up until that point.
Mentions Jesus: Antiquities, Book 18, ch. 3, par. 3.
Now there was about this time Jesus, a wise man, if it be lawful to call him a man; for he was a doer of wonderful works, a teacher of such men as receive the truth with pleasure. He drew over to him both many of the Jews and many of the Gentiles. He was [the] Christ. And when Pilate, at the suggestion of the principal men amongst us, had condemned him to the cross, those that loved him at the first did not forsake him; for he appeared to them alive again the third day; as the divine prophets had foretold these and ten thousand other wonderful things concerning him. And the tribe of Christians, so named from him, are not extinct at this day.
LETTER OF MARA BARSARAPION: (73 A.D.)
Mara Bar-Serapion was a Syrian who lived in the first century A.D. He wrote a letter to his son Serapion that mentions the Jews who killed their King. The letter is now in the possession of the British Museum.
“What benefit did the Athenians obtain by putting Socrates to death? Famine and plague came upon them as judgment for their crime. Or, the people of Samos for burning Pythagoras? In one moment their country was covered with sand. Or the Jews by murdering their wise king?…After that their kingdom was abolished. God rightly avenged these men…The wise king…Lived on in the teachings he enacted.”
Below are from what other secular writers mentioned of Jesus in their writings-
Jesus was a wise man and was called the Christ or Messiah, (Josephus)
Jesus gained many disciples from many nations, (Josephus)
He healed blind and lame people in Bethsaida and Bethany, (Julian the Apostate)
He was accused of practicing sorcery and leading Israel astray, (the Talmud)
Under Herod, and during the reign of Tiberius, Pontius Pilate condemned Christ to die, (Tacitus)
Christ was crucified on the eve of Passover, (the Talmud)
His crucifixion was accompanied by three hours of unexplained darkness, (Thallus)
Christ’s disciples, “reported that he had appeared to them three days after his crucifixion and that he was alive;”, (Josephus)
His disciples took to the habit of meeting on a fixed day of the week and took their name “Christians” from him, (Pliny)
They gave worship to Christ “as to a god”, (Pliny)
They bound themselves over to abstaining from wicked deeds, fraud, theft, adultery, and lying, (Pliny)
Christians held a contempt for death and were known for a voluntary self-devotion, (Lucian)
Christians believed themselves all brothers from the moment of their conversion, (Lucian)
Christians lived after Christ’s laws, (Lucian)
Christians were willingly tortured and even executed for their refusal to deny their belief in the resurrection and deity of Jesus Christ. (Josephus, Tacitus, Pliny, Lucian)
Zeitgeist on religion FALSE & Debunked
Zeitgeist on religion is full of half-truths, lies, and few truths. I will try to focus on the inaccuracies based off of the Old Testament. I have tried to show its a lie and debunked – but please do your own research too.
Sadly deceptive and convincing, but fraught with logical issues.
1). Bet Lechem is a real place.
2). The deities compared to Jesus are twisted or lies.
3). The number 12 may be in the Bible, but definitely not where they say.
4). Ages are only sourced one time in Job falsely.
5). Why the Golden Calf was a calf.
6). Explains why Egypt had 3 similar laws.
7). 4 characters similar to Moses either dont exist or come after. India, Greek etc…
8). Judaism has relatively nothing in common with the things they state about Egypt except circumcision etc….
Additional Notes: The Three Kings (Orions belt) are called that LONG after Jesus.
You can agree with the conclusions still, but the logic is fraught with lies and half-truths.
Added: August 14, 2007