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In The Passion: Photography from the Movie “The Passion of the Christ,” Gibson says “This is a movie about love, hope, faith, and forgiveness. Jesus died for all mankind, suffered for all of us. It’s time to get back to that basic message. The world has gone nuts. We could all use a little more love, faith, hope, and forgiveness.”
He also explains one of his appearances in the film, the close-up of his hands nailing Jesus to the cross: “It was me that put Him on the cross. It was my sins that put Jesus there.”
“For God so loved the world that He gave His only begotten Son, that whoever believes in Him should not perish but have everlasting life” (John 3:16)
“Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; old things have passed away; behold, all things have become new” (2Corinthians 5:17)
see
The Evidence for the Existence of Jesus
The Jewish Foundation of Christianity
Isaiah 53: Who is Isaiah speaking of in this chapter? by Lo + Aviad Cohen: Hooked On The Truth
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1 John 1:5-7
Thanks,
D.
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Thanks, Dwayne, I added the passage to your comment.
For an opposing viewpoint, see this post from the day before yesterday:
Hmm, no complaints when I posted this for MLK’s anniversary of his death.
Or this one on his birthday holiday:
Why is this being posted here? Are you doing promotion for Jesus or for Gibson? The movie is a rather traditional retelling of the crucifixion of Christ. And if you so loved someone, would you sacrifice your son for him? How is that love? That’s someone who needs psychotherapy, if you ask me. Can you imagine if I killed my child and said I sacrificed him because I loved someone else? They’d send me away!
Jennifer, to answer your first question, it is posted today as it’s Good Friday, a holiday. Why didn’t you also complain when I reposted The Ten Commandments for Passover?
You’re comparing Mel Gibson’s film to the Ten Commandments?
Do you have a problem with Mel Gibson or something? Is that why you are complaining about this post? Who cares who made the film, just watch it if you want to, or don’t watch it if you don’t want to.
This post is the number one top post of the day today, so other readers are finding that it is interesting enough to click on and perhaps view the movie.
Well, that’s exactly why I asked if you were promoting Gibson or Jesus. Either way, it’s not why I subscribed to Dandelion Salad — to get more advertising in my inbox.
This is not advertising. Dandelion Salad uses NO advertising and makes NO money at all.
If you don’t want to watch the film, don’t. I don’t make anyone watch or read any of the posts on Dandelion Salad.
There are over 16,500 posts on Dandelion Salad. Choose another post to read or view. What are your interests? I can suggest other posts/videos for you.
There’s no reply button to your last post, so I have to add it here. I’m perplexed that I got this in my email box and you want readers/viewers/responders, so I do, and now you tell me to go elsewhere. Just because I don’t fall in line and say halelulya, you want me to leave? I JUST ASKED A QUESTION. It seems to me that posting Gibson’s film in its entirety, IS advertising, whether you want to call it that or not. Our conversation here is not about whether I want to watch the film or not; it’s about why DS posted it. You answered me. I’m satisfied with your answer, although I don’t completely agree, but it’s not my site. It’s fine that you post whatever you want. You can post my stuff, too, if you like — it’s all pro-individual rights, and I’ve been publishing for some ten years, but I don’t promote any religion, so I found it odd that you seemed to be doing so.
It’s my blog, I post what I want to post. I stated that I often post articles/videos that I don’t agree with but I generally learn something from them. Do you ever read opposing viewpoints?
When did I ask you to leave? I suggested that you read/view other posts, there are plenty to choose from. I even asked you what you were interested in so I could suggest posts for you.
I told you I posted it for Good Friday. I suggest you not click on the post that will come out on Sunday for Easter, you probably don’t want to see it. I posted The Ten Commandments for Passover. I enjoy these historical films and learn from them.
Did you read and view the videos on this post from yesterday? https://dandelionsalad.wordpress.com/2011/04/21/detained-bahraini-medics-brutal-crackdown-against-pro-democracy-movement/
Finian is living in Bahrain and is risking his life getting this story out to the general public. There are no comments and very few views on this post. Why is that?
DS, got it. Thanks.
Jennifer, did you know that you can set your preference for a daily newsletter instead one email for every blog post I do? Click “manage” on the left-hand side of the blog right below where it says Email Subscription. That way you can receive it once a day and at whatever time period you like.
Jennifer — after the controversy of the film when it first came out ..a few years later Rolling Stone mag did an article reconsidering Gibson’s approach to film making in context with this movie .
here is the pattern they noticed : they said that BRAVEHEART , THE PASSION OF THE CHRIST , and APOCALPTO , all had one thing in common . and that one thing was –the individual against Empire.
now these 3 movies are seen as an odd trilogy . they praised Gibson not only for great filmaking but for showing that the individual can overcome Empire and the imperial mindset. the first and last movies were done thru violent revolution , and of course Christ did it thru non violence. but the theme remains the same .
i thought that the article had a lot of insight into the filmmaker’s mindset. we must remember this is a movie . are the British upset over Braveheart? no. are the Spanish upset over Apocalpto ? no. are the Romans upset over The passion of the Christ . no.
so what seems to be the problem . you are either with the individual or the Empire .
What is all this either/or stuff here today? I’m either with the individual or the empire. I’m either with Christ and therefore sane, or I’m not and I’m insane. Some pretty strong judgments of me on this day of judgment, hm?
But, again, was this meant to be a promotion of Gibson’s work here? I had thought Danelion Salad was less about promoting a person and more about promoting, well, a cause — the just causes of freedom of speech, freedom from unreasonable intrusions on privacy by the state, etc.
I see from what you say here that you view it as being exactly about promoting the individual over empire, so there we can agree that Gibson’s work might be relevant. I also understand that it might be appropriate on Good Friday (but isn’t it also Earth Day?) to post work about religion, but then shouldn’t it be more balanced and not just Christian-centered, if we are really about individual rights (which includes the right not to have anybody else’s religion imposed on us)?
I posted the film. Watch it or not watch it. There are all kinds of articles and videos that Dandelion Salad doesn’t agree with but yet I still post them. I can learn from others with differing opinions. It is up to the reader/viewer to think for themselves. I trust my readers can do that.
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Jennifer , it is posted here because dandelion salad is a revolutionary blog that seeks to inform and change the world. the crucifixion of Christ was state sponsored terror . the kind of thing we do and other imperialists do .
that is just one reason . the other is that the cross changed from a symbol of dread to a symbol of hope because of this act.
another reason; it has the power to save a person from themselves and an eternity away from a loving creator that chose to give his Son for you .
the question is –what person in their right mind would reject such a love ? answer: a person not in their right mind.
one more thing –it is Good Friday . good means good . forget about the fact that Gibson directed it . that is a thread-born excuse to refuse the free gift of divine love.
I don’t read Dandelion Salad because I’m religious. Nor do I appreciate being told that because I wondered why you were promoting Mel Gibson’s film, and/or because I question the sanity of killing one’s own offspring for the sake of others, I’m labeled as not in MY right mind! I don’t think any son who’s father gave up the son’s life would view that father as a loving creator. And anyone receiving love based on a murder would be out of his mind, in my opinion. Your circular reasoning doesn’t answer this.
OK , then i will attempt to answer this . first off you do realize that capital punishment is state sponsored murder and terror . Christ was a victim of this . Christ spoke out against this when he said ”he who is without sin , cast the first stone ”. ”love your enemies”. now , i don’t know where you stand on the death penalty but i think it is a travesty of justice and should be abolished.
divine love rejected. when i stated who would be in their right mind to reject such a love i was very very serious . the reasoning is not circular, but rather paradoxical . as the story goes , Christ chose to become our ransom for us for one reason –love. i am a father with a 21 year old son . would i give my son up to save someone ? no. but if my son chose to give his life to save someone i would think it to be the highest expression of love. i really would . what a heart of love !
no greater love that this is for a man to lay down his life for a friend . now in this case God went further –he sent Jesus to us who are his enemies. those of us who mock him , and then mock his sacrifice . Christ was in on the game . ”no man takes my life from me , i lay it down on my own accord”. what kind of God is this ? one who really is in love with us and proves it .
the world is dying for this kind of love . why should we be silent about it ? that is what makes no sense. silence like a cancer grows, but this good news changes hearts for the betterment of the world . this blog that LO works on over 12 hours a day every day without pay should be commended , not mocked for what she is presenting as a cure to the world’s ills , be it the social injustices of our day around the globe, or the claims of the sacrificial Lamb who can impart love to change the heart.
You mischaracterize me. I don’t mock anyone. Ever. I asked a genuine question and got insulted for it.
I don’t buy the idea of sacrifice as an act of love. And you seem to mash the actions of father and son into one. First you say Jesus laid down his life, then you say God sent Jesus to his enemies. Nice dad. Sorry, doesn’t work for me. And telling me this is all about love — again, doesn’t work for me. Love doesn’t sacrifice from one’s own.
But why are you preaching to me? Is Dandelion Salad published for that purpose? If so, you lost me. I’m not interested in being converted.
“Is Dandelion Salad published for that purpose?” are you directing that question to me or to Rocket? I am responsible for the posts/videos on Dandelion Salad. I think I’ve already answered that question in another response to you.
Jennifer , you are having a conversation with one THE most reluctant converts of all time . me . i understand where you are coming from . i really do . but what do you do when it happens to you ? that was me 36 years ago . let me put this in a way i think you may understand :
1.no one has ever lived a perfect life. we have all done an unloving act to our other fellow humans .
2.since an unloving act to our fellow humans requires in the eyes of an infinite God who is love a reckoning, so that the karmic scales must be balanced, then what must God do ?
3. as they say in the legal world –if you do the crime you must do the time . so it stands to reason that we must pay for our unloving act or acts in some way . metaphysics 101. cause and effect.
4. good news– christ paid for unloving act or acts on the cross. he chose to do it because he is the living flame of love. this specificity runs in a direct parallax to the notion of the abstractification of divinity , and leaves us with a choice of either the ”obstruction of mercy ” by just rejecting conversion , or saying yes , and being grateful for ransom being paid in full on the cross. hence , mercy establishes justice.
5.why Christ? humans have offended each other and God therefore a human must pay the ransom . aha ! but there is a dilemma here . why ? because there is no perfect human to pay it . so only a perfect God can pay it . enter the paradox of the God-man Jesus of Nazareth . fully human , fully divine . this is not religion .religion is human beings attempt to get to God . this is God come down in humility , God in vulnerability , God crucified . not the sky god warrior god . but one who came to wash our feet. to demonstrate divine love in action .
i dont accuse you for questioning . my intention was not to offend you . you state that love does not sacrifice from its own . but that is thinking from a finite mind . truth is everything as God sees it , and GOD IS LOVE. God’s thoughts and ways are not ours. they are infinitely better. of course we think that ours are until it is revealed differently.
you think i am preaching to you ? you are right . do you think i am trying to convert you . you are right . i am glad someone had the guts to tell me when i said time and time again that there was no way i would ever even consider Christ. he was at the bottom of my list. yet i called myslef a seeker of truth . God called my bluff and love broke thru . that is what i hope happens to you . i would be dishonest if i said it any other way . at least you know just where i am coming from .
one more thing . if you also want to know where i am coming from . i am a socialist. ..besides being a christian . i am a pacifist with no compromise. i am a featured writer for this blog on a lot of issues facing our day of social injustices and spirituality . bon appettite.
The message of the cross is what we are to give to others, that is the “Great Commision”, that Jesus Crist is Lord God, who left His place of Power in Heaven to become man ( the second Adam ) and live a perfect life, and show us how to live, and that he died for all of us sinners, so that we may live forever with Him, and that He rose from the dead, and is alive and waiting to return for His Church ( all true followers of Jesus ).
The way that the movie “the Passion” portraits the death of my Lord God Jesus Christ, is too graphic and too bloody.
Ironically, another popular film was being shown at the same time as the Passion, called “Kill Bill”.
How the people love graphic violence.
I renamed the Passion, Kill Jesus, because of people’s appetite for blood and gore.
I believe the message of the cross can be told and portraited in a less gruesome fashion.
I suggest the movie “Jesus of Nazareth”, if you want a complete portrayal of the life and death of Jesus Christ, and the crucifixion scene is not overtly bloody or gorely, but, you do get a real sense of the pain, suffering, and agony that our Lord Jesus went through.
I bought a few DVDs of Jesus of Nazareth, and I give them away as a witnessing tool, no movie portraits the Good News of Jesus Christ better.
Peace and Maranatha
Thanks for your comments, Tony.
Here’s a link to Jesus of Nazareth: https://dandelionsalad.wordpress.com/2009/10/21/jesus-of-nazareth-1977/ It is also posted at the end of this post with other links.
As to why this movie shows such graphic violence, it’s the same as the corporate media not showing us the real, bloody violence of war, so the independent media must do so. Hiding violence from the public doesn’t make it go away. We need the public to know exactly what is going on so they will be outraged enough to do something to hopefully stop it.
See what’s going on in Bahrain right now: https://dandelionsalad.wordpress.com/2011/04/10/unarmed-bahraini-man-ahmed-farhan-shot-in-the-head-because-he-asked-for-freedom-say-witnesses/ (Warning: graphic photos)
Same as all the posts here on torture: http://en.wordpress.com/tag/torture-on-dandelion-salad/
Thanks Lo, and thank you for your time and effort to get the truth out on your blog.
Have a blessed Resurrection Day on Sunday, Peace.
Thanks, Tony, Happy Easter to you, too.
The movie disgusted me and I would never watch it again.
I have seen the movie thank you very much. Never again.This Christian prostelyzing is getting tired.
Charlemagine massacred Germans and forced them to convert by the sword.Europe was converted by force and by offical sanction.Starting in the fourth century. They went after the kings and nobles, then when they were converted they outlawed the old religion and made it a capital crime to worship the old gods.
How would you like it if I walked into your church and cut down your cross?
oh , another blame the Christians excuse. we have heard it all before. nothing new. Christ was crucified for you personally Thor . what are you gonna do about it? you can either believe or be offended . you choose to be offended.
Crosses have been destroyed and churches burned and people in China and Russia have been tortured for Christ and still are. have you forgotten what the roman empire did to the early Christians for hundreds of years? why ? because they would not do military service , or salute the emperor.
so dont give me a speech on the so called values of pagan virtues. the pagans by the code of Hammarubi created the death penalty . Christ said ”he without sin cast the first stone ”. he came to evolve the human race to an enlightened place. one of real peace.
Uggh.
St. Boniface chopped down the tree of Thor and Germany converted to Christ.
I suggest that you actually watch the movie before commenting. You are exhibiting “contempt prior to investigation.”